Comments on: Race in America; Enough Already!!! http://asalesguy.com/2010/07/20/race-in-america-enough-already/ At the End of the Day, Everything is Sales! Thu, 09 Feb 2012 04:59:00 +0000 hourly 1 http://wordpress.org/?v=3.3.1 By: Keenan http://asalesguy.com/2010/07/20/race-in-america-enough-already/#comment-1030 Keenan Fri, 23 Jul 2010 01:29:11 +0000 http://asalesguy.com/?p=4217#comment-1030 Charlie, Larry, <br><br>Let's not lose site of my post. There is racism within the Black Community and it needs to stop, there is racism in the white community and it needs to stop. <br><br>My point is; let's stop pointing fingers. I commit to calling out the brothers and the sisters and chastising them for not casting off those with hateful, racist messages and I hope you and Charlie can do the same (Larry, I know you, so I know you do) Pointing out where others are racist only inflames the argument as we are both guilty. <br><br>Let's clean up our own yard and stop worrying about the other side. Charlie, Larry,

Let's not lose site of my post. There is racism within the Black Community and it needs to stop, there is racism in the white community and it needs to stop.

My point is; let's stop pointing fingers. I commit to calling out the brothers and the sisters and chastising them for not casting off those with hateful, racist messages and I hope you and Charlie can do the same (Larry, I know you, so I know you do) Pointing out where others are racist only inflames the argument as we are both guilty.

Let's clean up our own yard and stop worrying about the other side.

]]> By: Larry Caschette http://asalesguy.com/2010/07/20/race-in-america-enough-already/#comment-1028 Larry Caschette Wed, 21 Jul 2010 23:22:10 +0000 http://asalesguy.com/?p=4217#comment-1028 Charlie, very well formulated reponse. In complete agreement. Let's not also forget that there is a $100,000 reward for anyone who can furnish any hard evidence of racial slurs at the Tea Party Rallies. I would think with as much video as is being taken today, that if there was some blatant racism at a party it would have been found and published by now. But, I will also say that I wouldn't be surprised to see some idiot taking advantage of the movement to get some publicity for there stupidity. Did anyone else here the cheers from the crowd when she expressed that she decided to not give the farmer her full force of assistance? Now that was racism.That scared me more than what she said. Charlie, very well formulated reponse. In complete agreement. Let's not also forget that there is a $100,000 reward for anyone who can furnish any hard evidence of racial slurs at the Tea Party Rallies. I would think with as much video as is being taken today, that if there was some blatant racism at a party it would have been found and published by now. But, I will also say that I wouldn't be surprised to see some idiot taking advantage of the movement to get some publicity for there stupidity. Did anyone else here the cheers from the crowd when she expressed that she decided to not give the farmer her full force of assistance? Now that was racism.That scared me more than what she said.

]]> By: CharliePATpk http://asalesguy.com/2010/07/20/race-in-america-enough-already/#comment-1026 CharliePATpk Wed, 21 Jul 2010 21:00:14 +0000 http://asalesguy.com/?p=4217#comment-1026 First off, by way of introduction, I am not a Tea Party member. I support their underlying goal of smaller government, but I am not 'registered' in any Tea Party organization, nor newsletter or anything of the sort. I am a Conservative, who proudly cast his first vote for Ronald Reagan.<br><br>I don't personally know anyone who makes the kinds of jokes you mentioned; I know *of* comedians on TV and in clubs who make these jokes, and most often they are people of the race they're joking about (exception: George Carlin, who busted on *everyone*). I prefer to have nothing to do with racists of ANY color.<br><br>In our tweets I tried to point out (as best anyone can in <=140 characters) that while there were fringe idiots holding signs at Tea Party rallies, that was far and away the minuscule exception. You can't point to any speech by anyone saying such intolerable filth in a speech. <br><br>Case in point: your insinuating that the Tea Party is tacitly condoning those nuts is as relevant as any person of color being painted with the New Black Panther Party brush (Google: 'NPBB "Kill the crackers"'). I am not suggesting you are condoning NBPP, but using your logic anyone who DOESN'T condemn them is as guilty as you perceive the Tea Party is; it shouldn't work that way.<br><br>On the flip side, the Breitbart video of the speech before the NAACP was met with murmurs of acceptance: no one there called the speaker out for her abject racism. <br><br>Just because the news media camera show a few idiots holding racially inflammatory signs in front of a Tea Party event doesn't mean they'll show anyone calling them out. Judging that so many people are repeating the lines of how allegedly racist the Tea Party, I'd say too many are getting their news by the same 'journalists' who were a member of the <a href="http://www.journolist.com" rel="nofollow">www.journolist.com</a> , which this week has become so widely exposed for their extreme bias. First off, by way of introduction, I am not a Tea Party member. I support their underlying goal of smaller government, but I am not 'registered' in any Tea Party organization, nor newsletter or anything of the sort. I am a Conservative, who proudly cast his first vote for Ronald Reagan.

I don't personally know anyone who makes the kinds of jokes you mentioned; I know *of* comedians on TV and in clubs who make these jokes, and most often they are people of the race they're joking about (exception: George Carlin, who busted on *everyone*). I prefer to have nothing to do with racists of ANY color.

In our tweets I tried to point out (as best anyone can in <=140 characters) that while there were fringe idiots holding signs at Tea Party rallies, that was far and away the minuscule exception. You can't point to any speech by anyone saying such intolerable filth in a speech.

Case in point: your insinuating that the Tea Party is tacitly condoning those nuts is as relevant as any person of color being painted with the New Black Panther Party brush (Google: 'NPBB “Kill the crackers”'). I am not suggesting you are condoning NBPP, but using your logic anyone who DOESN'T condemn them is as guilty as you perceive the Tea Party is; it shouldn't work that way.

On the flip side, the Breitbart video of the speech before the NAACP was met with murmurs of acceptance: no one there called the speaker out for her abject racism.

Just because the news media camera show a few idiots holding racially inflammatory signs in front of a Tea Party event doesn't mean they'll show anyone calling them out. Judging that so many people are repeating the lines of how allegedly racist the Tea Party, I'd say too many are getting their news by the same 'journalists' who were a member of the http://www.journolist.com , which this week has become so widely exposed for their extreme bias.

]]> By: Dan Waldschmidt http://asalesguy.com/2010/07/20/race-in-america-enough-already/#comment-1025 Dan Waldschmidt Wed, 21 Jul 2010 16:53:08 +0000 http://asalesguy.com/?p=4217#comment-1025 Larry,<br><br>You are probably right about Glenn. I don't watch TV. Just read a few of his books.<br><br>Dan Larry,

You are probably right about Glenn. I don't watch TV. Just read a few of his books.

Dan

]]> By: Larry Caschette http://asalesguy.com/2010/07/20/race-in-america-enough-already/#comment-1024 Larry Caschette Wed, 21 Jul 2010 12:13:54 +0000 http://asalesguy.com/?p=4217#comment-1024 Rethink your concept about fear being easier to change. Why do you think religion and governments have controlled the human race for as long as history knows? Ugliness and selfishness are usually rooted in ignorance, but fear is used as a tool. I'm afraid to call someone black, because i've been told that is insenitive. I'm afraid to call someone Mexican, because somehow, even if they're from Mexico, that is a negative connotation. I'm afraid to speak out against big government spending because that portays me as ruthless and uncaring for those in need. Rethink your concept about fear being easier to change. Why do you think religion and governments have controlled the human race for as long as history knows? Ugliness and selfishness are usually rooted in ignorance, but fear is used as a tool. I'm afraid to call someone black, because i've been told that is insenitive. I'm afraid to call someone Mexican, because somehow, even if they're from Mexico, that is a negative connotation. I'm afraid to speak out against big government spending because that portays me as ruthless and uncaring for those in need.

]]> By: Larry Caschette http://asalesguy.com/2010/07/20/race-in-america-enough-already/#comment-1023 Larry Caschette Wed, 21 Jul 2010 12:09:04 +0000 http://asalesguy.com/?p=4217#comment-1023 I believe Glenn has done a great service with his "Founding Fathers" series to teach people about black leaders that have been forgotten by our history books. I am a pretty avid Glenn listener and don't get "fight" from him, but "learn and educate". Albeit, i'm sure it is mostly self-serving PR. But I did learn about some pretty amazing black historical figures that I've never heard of before, thanks to him. I believe Glenn has done a great service with his “Founding Fathers” series to teach people about black leaders that have been forgotten by our history books. I am a pretty avid Glenn listener and don't get “fight” from him, but “learn and educate”. Albeit, i'm sure it is mostly self-serving PR. But I did learn about some pretty amazing black historical figures that I've never heard of before, thanks to him.

]]> By: Larry Caschette http://asalesguy.com/2010/07/20/race-in-america-enough-already/#comment-1022 Larry Caschette Wed, 21 Jul 2010 12:02:57 +0000 http://asalesguy.com/?p=4217#comment-1022 I agree whole-heartedly wtih you Jim. It's sad we still have to call people out. I can't even imagine what life was like being black 50, 25 years ago or even today. It's doesn't even seem real to me, obviuosly. However, i feel that the mainstream media and the government works hard to keep racial tensions high. I mean, really, who is this lady and do we really care? Or should any of us give a damn about some poor, inbred, white trash at a Tea Party rally (supporting limited gov't). Unfortunatley, the answer is yes. <br>You're right, we do need to point these people out and let them know we don't share their beliefs. Make sure "our" movements aren't ransacked by idiots, and the purpose is overshadowed.<br>But...i do disagree with your statement that you need to be focusing on increasing black voter turnout or black college attendance. How about increase overall voter turnout or reducing overall poverty. I think you said it best that mankind is better off if we can educate the masses. That doesn't mean just focusing on "my" people unless you are talking about humans. <br>You know my feeling on racism is centered on people being more culturalist than racist. I'm not afraid to admit I don't want to be around uneducated, loud, showy, obnoxious, precocious, materialistic people (besides you). If that happens to follow a color line, so be it. But be sure it has nothing to do with color.<br>I will do my part to watch my jokes, comments, and be sure to callout those who don't. Thanks for being willing to listen and express without fear.<br>Now have you heard the one about the black guy, the mexican and the Rabbi. it's great! I agree whole-heartedly wtih you Jim. It's sad we still have to call people out. I can't even imagine what life was like being black 50, 25 years ago or even today. It's doesn't even seem real to me, obviuosly. However, i feel that the mainstream media and the government works hard to keep racial tensions high. I mean, really, who is this lady and do we really care? Or should any of us give a damn about some poor, inbred, white trash at a Tea Party rally (supporting limited gov't). Unfortunatley, the answer is yes.
You're right, we do need to point these people out and let them know we don't share their beliefs. Make sure “our” movements aren't ransacked by idiots, and the purpose is overshadowed.
But…i do disagree with your statement that you need to be focusing on increasing black voter turnout or black college attendance. How about increase overall voter turnout or reducing overall poverty. I think you said it best that mankind is better off if we can educate the masses. That doesn't mean just focusing on “my” people unless you are talking about humans.
You know my feeling on racism is centered on people being more culturalist than racist. I'm not afraid to admit I don't want to be around uneducated, loud, showy, obnoxious, precocious, materialistic people (besides you). If that happens to follow a color line, so be it. But be sure it has nothing to do with color.
I will do my part to watch my jokes, comments, and be sure to callout those who don't. Thanks for being willing to listen and express without fear.
Now have you heard the one about the black guy, the mexican and the Rabbi. it's great!

]]> By: Keenan http://asalesguy.com/2010/07/20/race-in-america-enough-already/#comment-1021 Keenan Wed, 21 Jul 2010 09:42:35 +0000 http://asalesguy.com/?p=4217#comment-1021 I hope what lies beneath is NOT ugliness and selfishness, I HOPE it is nothing more than fear. It is a lot easier to change a nation of fear than it is to change an ugly, selfish, ignorant nation. That is a much more difficult task. <br><br>Thanks Dan! I hope what lies beneath is NOT ugliness and selfishness, I HOPE it is nothing more than fear. It is a lot easier to change a nation of fear than it is to change an ugly, selfish, ignorant nation. That is a much more difficult task.

Thanks Dan!

]]> By: Keenan http://asalesguy.com/2010/07/20/race-in-america-enough-already/#comment-1020 Keenan Wed, 21 Jul 2010 09:39:30 +0000 http://asalesguy.com/?p=4217#comment-1020 Kindness, compassion, I like to think they are still there, we just need to extend them to everyone. Kindness, compassion, I like to think they are still there, we just need to extend them to everyone.

]]> By: Keenan http://asalesguy.com/2010/07/20/race-in-america-enough-already/#comment-1019 Keenan Wed, 21 Jul 2010 09:36:22 +0000 http://asalesguy.com/?p=4217#comment-1019 I'm honored Dan. <br><br>That is an impressive list you've built. Thanks for including me. I'm honored Dan.

That is an impressive list you've built. Thanks for including me.

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